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Thomas B. Marsh: The First President of the Quorum of the Twelve Who Left and Then Came Back — 'I Cannot Live Without a Reconciliation'

Published April 26, 2026 at 8:40 AM

1850s · 1857
Salt Lake City, Utah
Todd Morgan

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Thomas B. Marsh (1800–1866) was one of the most spiritually prepared men in the early Church. Before his conversion, he had an unusual experience: he learned from a stranger that soon a new church would be established and that he should join it. He traveled to Palmyra, met the Smith family, and obtained the first 16 lines of the Book of Mormon ever shown to anyone outside the translation process.

Marsh was chosen by the Three Witnesses as the first President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. The Lord gave him a powerful personal revelation (D&C 112) calling him to carry the gospel to all nations.

But in 1838, amid the Missouri crises, Thomas B. Marsh left the Church. Popular history simplifies the reason to a dispute over milk cream — but the full picture involved genuine disillusionment, pride, and misplaced trust.

For nearly 19 years he wandered without the Church. By 1857, he was old, poor, nearly blind, and broken in health. He traveled to Salt Lake City and asked to be forgiven.

Brigham Young received him warmly. In a General Conference address, Marsh said: 'I have sinned against Heaven and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son. I know that the latter-day work is true... I have seen the Savior in a vision. I have seen angels. I know this work is true.’

He then added one of the most powerful warnings in Church history: 'Do not seek to excel one another... that is what ruined me. Pride. If Brother Brigham had that which I threw away, I would not say it is worth nothing.'

In Their Own Words

“REMARKS BY THOMAS B. MARSH. I do not know that I can make all this vast congregation hear and understand me. My voice never was very strong, but it has been very much weakened of late years by the afflicting rod of Jehovah. He loved me too much to let me go without whipping. I have seen the hand of the Lord in the chastisement which I have received. I have seen and known that it has proved he loved me; for if he had not cared anything about me, he would not have taken me by the arm and given me such a shaking. If there are any among this people who should ever apostatize and do as I have done, prepare your backs for a good whipping, if you are such as the Lord loves. But if you will take my advice, you will stand by the authorities; but if you go away and the Lord loves you as much as he did me, he will whip you back again. Many have said to me, “How is it that a man like you, who understood so much of the revelations of God as recorded in the Book of Doctrine and Covenants, should fall away?” I told them not to feel too secure, but to take heed lest they also should fall; for I had no scruples in my mind as to the possibility of men falling away. I can say, in reference to the Quorum of the Twelve, to which I belonged, that I did not consider myself a whit behind any of them, and I suppose that others had the same opinion; but, let no one feel too secure; for, before you think of it, your steps will slide. You will not then think nor feel for a moment as you did before you lost the Spirit of Christ; for when men apostatize, they are left to grovel in the dark. I have frequently wanted to know how my apostacy began, and I have come to the conclusion that I must have lost the Spirit of the Lord out of my heart. I became jealous of the Prophet, and then I saw double, and overlooked everything that was right, and spent all my time in looking for the evil; and then, when the Devil began to lead me, it was easy for the carnal mind to rise up, which is anger, jealousy, and wrath. I could feel it within me; I felt angry and wrathful; and the Spirit of the Lord being gone, as the Scriptures say, I was blinded, and I thought I saw a beam in brother Joseph’s eye, but it was nothing but a mote, and my own eye was filled with the beam; but I thought I saw a beam in his, and I wanted to get it out; and, as brother Heber says, I got mad, and I wanted everybody else to be mad. I talked with Brother Brigham and Brother Heber, and I wanted them to be mad like myself; and I saw they were not mad, and I got madder still because they were not. I never want to forsake the people of God any more. I want to have your confidence, and I want to be one in the house of God. I have learned to understand what David said when he exclaimed, “I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of God than to dwell in the tents of wickedness.” I have not come here to seek for any office, except it be to be a doorkeeper or a deacon; no, I am neither worthy nor fit; but I want a place among you as a humble servant of the Lord.”

— Thomas B. Marsh, Journal of Discourses

Sources & References

D&C 112. Thomas B. Marsh letter to Heber C. Kimball, May 5, 1857. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/revelations-in-context/the-faith-and-fall-of-thomas-marsh. BYU Studies: 'I Have Sinned Against Heaven...' https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2042&context=byusq. Full first-person account: Journal of Discourses, Vol. 5, pp. 206–207 https://mrm.org/journal-of-discourses

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